tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post674057557992198511..comments2023-08-16T03:56:19.093-07:00Comments on The Snail Shell: Ooh ooh hey I got a great idea for a new countryDanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03312048754374286109noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-42040424587109523222009-06-11T04:24:46.387-07:002009-06-11T04:24:46.387-07:00Cheers! Adam, you first...Cheers! Adam, you first...Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-15347053695530758302009-06-10T21:13:03.114-07:002009-06-10T21:13:03.114-07:00I say we set up an anarco-sydicalist commune where...I say we set up an anarco-sydicalist commune where we all take turns being a sort of executive officer for the week!<br />:-PAdamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-79838599863315256442009-06-10T03:47:19.987-07:002009-06-10T03:47:19.987-07:00:-D
I'm seriously considering making it part ...:-D<br /><br />I'm seriously considering making it part of my life plan to make money now, travel for x amount of time to research, then basically get the land and the infrastructure for the commune. Once its there, I just know other people that are working 'real jobs' well be more able to check it out...Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-69848668881436496712009-06-09T19:22:07.298-07:002009-06-09T19:22:07.298-07:00Yeah. Hey, want to start a commune?
I'm only...Yeah. Hey, want to start a commune?<br /><br />I'm only like 96% joking.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312048754374286109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-1042030590904411992009-06-09T17:54:27.458-07:002009-06-09T17:54:27.458-07:00Just community building.
I don't expect that w...Just community building.<br />I don't expect that we're going to be able to actually go back to those small of communities, but we can try to develop them internal to the system.<br /><br />Or live on communes.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-29003544949548404542009-06-09T10:47:21.967-07:002009-06-09T10:47:21.967-07:00Really? But when was the last time we lived in to...Really? But when was the last time we lived in towns small enough that nobody could be anonymous if they wanted?Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312048754374286109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-79847441309928528822009-06-09T03:56:36.751-07:002009-06-09T03:56:36.751-07:00Cha. But you can still be anonymous in a city. Whi...Cha. But you can still be anonymous in a city. Which folks say leads to many problems.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-35901970149726872202009-06-08T13:28:34.277-07:002009-06-08T13:28:34.277-07:00Yeah!
At the same time, I like cities. This is w...Yeah!<br /><br />At the same time, I like cities. This is weird.<br /><br />I think I can reconcile the two by saying I like medium-sized cities. New York is too big. Seattle (or Pittsburgh) is good sized. And if you have a million people, instead of having 500k people in a city and 500k sprawling out into suburbs, exurbs, blah blah, we should just have two separate cities of 500k each.<br /><br />Urban planning is so cool!Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312048754374286109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-16042324553676795232009-06-08T11:36:21.805-07:002009-06-08T11:36:21.805-07:00Community != society
I would say I would push for...Community != society<br /><br />I would say I would push for small communities (see: modern urban planning theory, sustainable development, etc) as a practical psudo-implementation of the small society idea.<br /><br />Also, horray work? :-)Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-35136349657441289702009-06-08T11:33:35.540-07:002009-06-08T11:33:35.540-07:00Okay. And I'll take all your computer chips, ...Okay. And I'll take all your computer chips, because your 500 person society can't build them.<br /><br />Seriously, though, I mostly agree with going smaller. I don't know how small, but certainly something smaller than our world is now. Maybe small societies + trade, because then you can have one society that only builds computer chips?<br /><br />Or maybe we should just not have computers. Nah, I don't buy that.<br /><br />This is a whole nother can of worms. But I'm mostly all for it!Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312048754374286109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-87020379865736093252009-06-08T11:29:43.305-07:002009-06-08T11:29:43.305-07:00Hm.
I think the solution is to revert back to 500...Hm.<br /><br />I think the solution is to revert back to 500 or less person groups...or whatever the latest psych figures say is the maximum number of people you can care about.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-60278324235424256192009-06-08T11:23:30.681-07:002009-06-08T11:23:30.681-07:00Yeah! The new system wouldn't be perfect, but...Yeah! The new system wouldn't be perfect, but it wouldn't be worse than our system, anyway.<br /><br />(and obv scrap the electoral college blah blah)Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312048754374286109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-44686904376935899342009-06-08T11:22:03.874-07:002009-06-08T11:22:03.874-07:00I think I see part of your point...you're sayi...I think I see part of your point...you're saying that we're merely deceiving ourselves into thinking our current system is 'fair' by saying every vote is equal, whereas in practice votes are bought and influenced by so many factors other than pure 'I firmly believe this person would be the best for this position'?Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-38755910976540290452009-06-08T11:17:34.952-07:002009-06-08T11:17:34.952-07:00That's exactly what I called out in flaw #2.
...That's exactly what I called out in flaw #2.<br /><br />But I mean, as is, if you got real passionate about politics, you could go door-to-dooring or fundraising, and the single mother/father couldn't, right?<br /><br />(another side effect of this would be disenfranchising "busy busy busy" high-powered businessmen or investment banking types. hmm...)Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03312048754374286109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11349941.post-31446001085828021492009-06-08T03:44:39.516-07:002009-06-08T03:44:39.516-07:00I'm an unemployed 22-year-old right out of col...I'm an unemployed 22-year-old right out of college.<br /><br />You are a single mother/father of 2 with a high school degree.<br /><br />I can probably spend all 24 hours in the room.<br /><br />You can spend maybe 15 minutes, because you have to work 3 jobs.<br /><br />Its a softball, but I think this is worse than our current system b/c of the problem above?Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10185395054770478010noreply@blogger.com